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I was asked to do an interview on psychological trauma. Good person that I am, I agreed to do so at once. What I had in mind was to bring in a psychoanalytically oriented trauma therapist who is now doing the most advanced trauma therapy--in Israel. Of course. In Israel. I also had in mind bringing in Dr. Judith Lewis Herman, or at least a summary of her important work. In 1992, I was privileged to have reviewed her book Trauma and Recovery in the pages of the New York Times Book Review. I was told that this meant that an almost failing book would now have a long and impressive future. Since then, it has saved millions of lives. I was only "paying it forward." The late Adrienne Rich reviewed Women and Madness in those same pages. It was the first feminist work to have been accorded a front-page book review.

Thank you, Adrienne. Thank you, Judy.

Long ago, I learned that if I wore some lipstick, people would take me for one of them and actually listen to the radical things I would be saying. It usually worked. And so, this time, I also had a makeup artist perfect my appearance.

My exceedingly pleasant and enthusiastic interviewer mainly wanted to talk about my feminist work. I was surprised but also pleased. Her questions allowed me to walk her through my feminist thinking and writing over fifty-five to sixty years of publishing, lecturing, founding programs, organizing conferences, and a wee bit of demonstrating.

When I asked for a copy of the recorded interview, I was, at first, met with silence. I continued to ask--and finally received a link to an audio file of our conversation which did not work. I asked again--and happily received a link that did work. When I requested the visual version, not only the auditory one (remember that makeup!), I was finally told that their policy does not allow them to share the visual version. Ah, well. Oh dear. I can live with this.

Here is our July 15th conversation. I hope you enjoy it.